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Conservatives Have Whoppers Of Conspiracy Theories
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2005-08-04 11:34:18 (265 weeks ago)
Posted By: Intellpuke
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   Intellpuke: "Two conservative websites have been speculating about the federal investigation into the leaking of Valerie Plame as a CIA agent and have come up with a couple of doozy conspiracy theories, according to a write-up on the UnknownCountry.com website. There's not what I would call a lot of confirmation here, but it was an interesting read. Following is what UnknownCountry posted, you'll find links to the two sites mentioned in it at the bottom of UC's article:
Speculation about the investigation of Federal Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald into the Valerie Plame affair has reached a fever pitch in the conspiracy community, along with claims that there will be a terrorist attack staged in the United States in August to deflect public attention from the activities of the Chicago Grand Jury. Whether or not any of this is true remains to be seen, but the intensity of the claims is unusual.
For example, Libertarian muckraker Tom Flocco has just posted an article on his website, TomFlocco.com claiming that George W. Bush, Karl Rove and numerous others have been indicted by the Chicago Grand Jury convened to investigate the Valerie Plame leak.
Flocco claims that U.S. Federal Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald has indicted President Bush, Vice-President Cheney, Bush Chief of Staff Andrew Card, Cheney Chief of Staff I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez, former Attorney General John Ashcroft, imprisoned New York Times reporter Judith Miller and former Senior Cheney advisor Mary Matalin.
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Re: Conservatives Have Whoppers Of Conspiracy Theories
2005-08-04 12:31:18
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I'm not surprised, but many of you seem to be......
I was in a family for 26 years and shortly after getting married, my ex-wife's family joined organized crime in the Chicago area. Their business is Real Estate Development (condo's and homes) and their job in Organized Crime is to launder money stright into property for -- International Drug Distribution, Very Wide Scale Political Corruption and Large Scale Fraud. Their connection is with a group they called "The Guys" who's leader is the Security Director at a very fast growing Christian Mega Church also in the Chicago area. They are one of a small army of "Real Estate Development" people and "others" all well organized and connected in what I call a "Laundromat"! Please be aware that my ex-inlaws bragged about Mayor Daley owning property in the Laundromat and Clinton being involved also. What you call surprising at this point is only part of a story that has yet to completely surface. There's a lot more to talk about, but this is all I'm saying at this time.
"Follow the money to the Laundromat!"
Deep Throat II |
Re: Conservatives Have Whoppers Of Conspiracy Theories
2005-08-04 17:51:31
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Check out http://www.franklingate.com
Is Judith Wilson the link between Plamegate and Franklingate (Larry Franklin, AIPAC, Pentagon mole?) |
Re: Conservatives Have Whoppers Of Conspiracy Theories
2005-08-05 04:29:46
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Deep Throat II
Any information you have about that story that you are willing to divulge, I would be willing to listen to. Please get in touch with me.
augustharper@internetcheese.com
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Re: Conservatives Have Whoppers Of Conspiracy Theories
2005-08-05 12:50:38
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augustharper@internetcheese.com, thank you for the interest. If you understand criminal fraud systems especially those integrated with very wide scale Political Corruption and large International Drug Distribution systems, you may realize that electronic communication isn't recommended. The story is beyond being lengthly and because of it complexity has always presented difficulties with explaining. However, for now and depending upon what's asked, I will consider questions displayed here.
Deep Throat II
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Re: Conservatives Have Whoppers Of Conspiracy Theories
2005-08-06 13:27:53
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What many don't know is there is a huge Organized Crime connection with our political system. As in Chicago, especially the Daley machine, there's a more than obvious connection with Organized crime. But as it goes further up and past Illinois, it becomes less obvious. However, as noted on the various websites indicated above, there's enough "behavioral" information to draw more than accurate conclusions and that's why everyone is asking questions. But the reality is there's a great deal of truth involved in what they say. Please continue to read.
As to if it's true or not, there are enough so called "tidbits" from my ex-in-laws to explain that most of this is definately true. The question about Judith Miller being a link should be answered by the existing evidence. With what I know, my answer is yes. What's most bothersome, to me at least, is the that Organized Crime is directly embedded in our political structure at all levels and is directing our decision process. As you can see from the news, Organized Crimes intention is to grab tax money and I know it also includes drugs coming in from Mexico. Currently, there's a huge drug distributing system that is now surfacing. The most recent article I read says Mexico Drug people now oversee a $400Billion dollar distribution system in the US. They already pushed out the Columbia people.
My ex-in-laws, after joining Organized Crime were very concerned about the areas they would get involved in. They tried to learn about each one first then stayed with those that appeared to be less of a threat with being exposed. As an example, they were approached by Rosemont (I met Don Stevens and some of his people at dinners) to launder money and also inner city mob for the same reason. They were already working with people they called "The Guys" who worked out of a huge Mega church in the Chicago area. As a family member, I went along with my ex-in-laws and attended dinners with at Rosemont and in Chicago with Inner City MOB people. It was entirely strange with how these dinner meetings came about and even stranger with how they played out.
My ex-in-laws were very scared of meeting with Inner City Mob people and we all were told not to mingle, look at or even talk to any of them. If we were to visit the washroom, we were instructed to go with a family partner. However, at the Rosemont dinners, it was an open book and we were allowed to do almost anything. But much later, my ex-father-in-law told all of us at his home, that he didn't want any part of Rosemont because he felt they were too flashy and would draw too much attention. Eventually they were considered to get caught. He also didn't want any part of the inner city mob either but said that there are other Builders that will take care of them. He then instructed his oldest son to give them all a call with his decision. He chose to stay with a group he called "The Guys" who are centered in a Mego Church in the Chicago area.
Over the years, my ex-in-laws became more and more involved and grew more and more paranoid. It became so bad that everyone in the family ended up being followed and wire tapped 24/7. Often we all individually were questioned with who are friends were and what we talked about. It was horrible and caused a lot of problems in my family especially.
More of this eventually surfaced. There are three main sections involved. It's important to realize how large this operation is!
- International Drug Distribution - I'm familar with the drugs coming out of Mexico into Texas and shipped up to Chicago. I heard there were other shipment areas but what involved my ex-in-laws was the Chicago shippment.
Chicago was considered a hub and the drugs were redistributed to New York and Florida as well as others. I was told about the drugs being shipped to Chicago in a Pepper Truck because the smell of the peppers covered up the drugs.
Back in 2003, the DEA nailed one of the shipping trucks called a "Pepper Truck" as it was enroute to Chicago carrying $92million. Also, around Chicago were two huge 30 year old Drug Rings distributing drugs to customers. This is also in the news starting from the middle of 2002. Back when I was told about the Drug system (early 90's) my ex-in-laws were laundering money mostly for the drug system. Their business was awash in cash and grew fast because condo units were sold quickly. There was a lot of talk in the form of "tidbits" about how the fraud part took place to hide property within the corrupt system.
If you wanted the job of driving the Pepper Truck, you needed to atend the Mega Church and join one of their Men's groups. By asking the Minister for a job, he would direct you to talk to one of "The Guys" who would then start you out driving a truck. I personally witnessed this happen while in a Men's meeting. The guy in our meeting who took the job soon quit after driving for a few months.
- Very Wide Scale Political Corruption - This is the scary part. In the Chicago area for an example, Politicians involved in important decisions are people who are involved in this. What today's news says about Chicago should make what I'm telling you believeable. My ex-in-laws bragged many times about Mayor Daley owning property in what I call "The Laundromat" so when the Laundromat is surfaced, everyone will know who else is involved too. The Laundromat is a collection of Real Estate Developers and "others" who are collectively laundering corruption money (and the other listed sections) straight into property. What you need to realize is this doesn't stop at Daley. There's a great deal I could say about this area because besides myself, there are others who will explain what they know. In Chicago, many Judges, Lawyers, Police and others are involved wokring together in this corruption system. It's clear that if someone in the system needs something done, it can be done. Even in many of the towns surrounding Chicago, this is also true. Others as well as myself have witnessed many things.
- Very Wide Scale Fraud - Each one of these three sections requires special skills for committing criminal acts. Fraud especially in this hug capacity requires high tech snopping but in this case it's also fueled by the Drug system money, so there's an endless suppy of cash to get anything they want.
Back when married, I was requested to help build and maintain tiny radio transreceiver. Someone came over and showed me his personal system for a example and asked if I could build something like that for others. After thinking about it, I declined and my ex-father-in-law was upset with me. Another example, today they rule over the internet and accomplish much more than any hacker would ever dream of doing. Nothing electronic is safe from their prying eyes. Other areas are cell phone systems and land phones, I've witnessed that there's nothing that will stop them from getting control over anythinig in these areas.
But, ciminal fraud also includes Healthcare Fraud and with the right collection of people in a hospital can and have been known, to pull off other worse crimes. I'm not going to mention anything yet, but I know a great deal about certain hospitals involving the President of the hospital, doctors and others committing the worst crimes imaginable. However, the hospital people are directly connected to those involved working outside that try to cause the trouble to bring the victim into the hospital. They are all working together. Besides hospitals there are companies involved too. Remember, they all work closely together
But what was most surprising was when they told me that Clinton was involved. He was just president at the time I was told. They even talked about some of the mysterious deaths associated with Clinton that I have understood as being murders from my ex-in-laws. Make no mistake, Clinton at that time was really deeply involved and the stories surrounding him aren't fiction at all. Remember I said they all work closely together, so you need to realize that when looking at one situation, you're really missing the others. Try putting together the stories and look at it from a crows nest view! It'll explain it better.
Also, there are huge Banks involved in this. There are Police reports from people and myself against a Mortgage Company that is connected to a large Bank. My ex-in-laws traveled to vsit this Bank when I was married. But remember there are other Banks involved as well
There's a lot more, but this is enough for now.
Deep Throat II
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Re: Conservatives Have Whoppers Of Conspiracy Theories
2005-08-09 13:28:30
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Miller is protecting Libby....but the walls are cracking....just a matter of time...
I saw Franklingate.com
and liked
http://www.newsfollowup.com also...
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Re: Conservatives Have Whoppers Of Conspiracy Theories
2005-08-11 08:49:50
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Conspiracy Theory?
Why use that term? It used to be called investigative reporting now the crooks have invented a new derogative term for it and you use it!
Drugs in Government housing projects rigged bids, major drug felons shaking hand with administration officials. Leaking covert personell's names to the media so they can be hit by terrorists, contracting fraud in Iraq. Is anyone really surpised at this...
Remember this, Conspriacy is a LEGAL term used if two or more people are engaged in a criminal enterprise, it is a conspiracy. No theory. These things have been going on a long time and unless you have been living under a rock for the past 30 years you should be smart enough to see it for what it is.
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Re: Conservatives Have Whoppers Of Conspiracy Theories
2005-08-13 00:00:53
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Intellpuke has a whopper of a combination of lies and deliberate disinformation.
1. What has this got to do with "Conservatives" ?!! Conservative, liberal, left, right - I don't know how these terms have any relevance whatsoever.
2. In fact, Intellpuke, there has already been a terrorist attack by the British MI6 in the Chicago subway in an attempt to blow up Fitzgerald and one of his grand juries.
3. To say that there Bush, Cheney, et al have been indicted is not a conspiracy theory but a fact.
Further, dude, everything that involves planning and more than one person is a conspiracy. For every robbery, burglary, murder or other crime which was planned and which involved more than one person, the court which convicted the perpertrators had to develop a conspiracy theory. The court determined that there was a conspiracy, and so the court put together a "conspiracy theory".
So outside of the scientific community - where theories do not involve people but properties of nature - conspiracy theories are almost as common and standard as theories themselves.
4. Next, you refer to the "conspiracy community". What is that ?
5. Intellpuke, you are a kook and a nutcase, and you're probably being paid by someone to be that way.
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