Do you have a complete list of propaganda, news outlets?
2005-03-18 09:33:16
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Fox News and CNN are totally unreliable , but the more
insidious ones are harder to detect (ie NPR corporate whores)
thanks for any additional info. |
Re: JOURNALISTS TELL OF U.S. FALLUJA KILLINGS
2005-03-18 09:44:13
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| by the way bush has run his war on iraq,and his war on our cival liberties,done as he wants where he wants,theres probably some truth here,especially cuting off the hospitals from the outside world,GOD HELP US,BUSH IS HERE |
Re: JOURNALISTS TELL OF U.S. FALLUJA KILLINGS
2005-03-18 09:50:03
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I personally have a healthy skeptism about "news" reports but I do know that our Adminstration has been feeding the nation and the world a health dose of its own propgranda. The biggest of which was the whole WMD and now Freedam line of BS. The latest proof of the deception comes from a BBC report on March 17, 2005 by reporter Greg Palast for Newsnight. Using the freedom of information act they obtained copies of two plans to replace Saddam, privatize the Oil resources, and break the back of Opec. Both plans one forested by Big Oil and the other by Neo Cons. These plans were drawn up prior to 9/11 just a few weeks after bush took office. So it seems true that US has lost 1520 killed 10,284 wounded and $300 billions for Oil. That is sure a far cry from WMD and Freedom.
While the adminstartion calls it advocay or spin. It is just one a dramatic series of lies this adminstration has been feeding and unfortunately many have swallowed.
Given the reported deaths of 108 prisioners while in custody and torture etc. One can't immediately discount any report they should all be investigated.
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Re: Do you have a complete list of propaganda, news outlets?
2005-03-18 09:54:30
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Well as a long time listener of NPR all I can say is thank you NPR.
The Bush adminstration are so trying to control the media they are paying in one case $250,000 to a black radio host to "sell" his no child left behind act. Another trick is call VNR where they produce there their own "news" pieces strip off the source and send to local news stations to run them. They look like local and indpedent produced news stories but they are 100% propoganda |
Re: JOURNALISTS TELL OF U.S. FALLUJA KILLINGS
2005-03-18 10:32:47
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| The sadness of this is that it could be true. It may be totally false, but I cannot reject all or parts of it as being impossible for our country to condone or allow, as I would like to be able to do. |
Re: JOURNALISTS TELL OF U.S. FALLUJA KILLINGS
2005-03-18 14:30:11
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If all was sunshine and roses there in Fallujah, then the international press would be allowed in.
If the US authorities were interested in getting the truth out there, then the international press would be INVITED in.
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Re: JOURNALISTS TELL OF U.S. FALLUJA KILLINGS
2005-03-18 14:34:24
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FIRST OF ALL - THE EDITOR! SPELLED "propoganda" WRONG!!!! HOW ARE WE TO "TRUST" AN EDITOR WHO CANNOT EVEN SPELL!!!! IT'S "PROPAGANDA!!!" MISTER!!!
SECONDLY, ONE COMMENT POSTED BROUGHT UP SITES LIKE "CNN" AND "FOXNEWS" WHICH ARE FULL OF "FALSE-TRUTHS" AND "OUTRIGHT LIES!" I DON'T SEE YOU EVER! 'ATTACKING' THEM.
THE "TRUTH" IS...THAT MANY, MANY INNOCENT IRAQIS HAVE BEEN 'TORTURED' AND KILLED -- INCLUDING WOMEN AND CHILDREN -- BY YOUR 'god' BUSH AND AMERICAN TROOPS ON HIS 'ORDERS' (AND IT IS VERY, VERY CLEAR FROM YOUR 'LOYAL' DEFENSE - THAT YOU DO -- INDEED! 'WORSHIP" HIM!)
LASTLY, IT MIGHT SURPRISE YOU TO 'KNOW' -- BEING THAT YOU ARE VERY, VERY LACKING IN 'GENERAL' KNOWLEDGE, THAT "AL-JAZERRA" IS ACTUALLY "AMERICAN" BACKED, OWNED AND RUN. (IF YOU LOOKED VERY CAREFULLY AT THIS SITE AND ALL IT'S NEWS STORIES -- YOU WOULD 'SEE' THAT IT HAS A VERY, VERY "BROAD" WORLD VIEW...AND YOU WOULD 'SEE' HOW IGNORANT YOUR CLAIM OF 'PROPAGANDA' REALLY IS...) WHY DON'T YOU HAVE A REPORTER GO OVER AND ASK THE IRAQI PEOPLE THEMSELVES ABOUT THESE KILLINGS? I'LL BET 'ANYTHING' MANY WILL "FULLY" BACK THIS STORY -- AND WITH 'EVIDENCE!!"
YOU OBVIOUSLY ARE NOT AS "OBJECTIVE" AS YOU LIKE TO BILL YOUR SITE AS BEING -- AND YOU ARE NOT! THE LEAST BIT INTERESTED IN THE "TRUTH" -- OR BEING DIFFERENT FROM OTHER MAINSTREAM "SO-CALLED" NEWS SITES!~ |
Re: Do you have a complete list of propaganda, news outlets?
2005-03-18 14:36:31
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you are so RIGHT! about NPR being "corporate whores!"
you really gotta look around for what's really happening and not buy everything the Bush Administration is and has been saying.... |
Re: JOURNALISTS TELL OF U.S. FALLUJA KILLINGS
2005-03-18 14:37:28
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| Ask questions -- and DEMAND ANSWERS!!! |
Re: JOURNALISTS TELL OF U.S. FALLUJA KILLINGS
2005-03-18 14:39:17
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YOU HAVE AN 'EXCELLENT' POINIT....
WHAT'S THE U.S. 'HIDING'...THAT'S THE QUESTION DEFINITELY 'WORTH" ASKING!!!! |
Re: JOURNALISTS TELL OF U.S. FALLUJA KILLINGS
By: sayntbrigid
2005-03-19 01:20:29
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I think anything is possible. I feel sure that
we infiltrate by disguising ourselves as terrorists, and that they in turn, at times, have disguised themselves as one of us, and done terrible things to create bad press about us. |
Re: JOURNALISTS TELL OF U.S. FALLUJA KILLINGS
2005-03-19 01:40:09
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| The United States administration has only itself to blame if stories such as these come out of Iraq - be they true or false or half true. The fact is we cannot trust what the US tells us because they have subverted investigative journalism methodically and deliberately. We didn't believe the news published by the Soviet Union because it was manipulated and we don't believe the news put out by the USA (including many so called independent press sources) because it too is manipulated. The only WMDs around are weapons of mass deception. |
Re: JOURNALISTS TELL OF U.S. FALLUJA KILLINGS
2005-03-24 11:14:16
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I am a U.S. Marine who spent 2 and a half months in Fallujah, and I was there for Operation Al Fajr. This was the operation that involved the taking of the city and the beginning phases of it's rebuilding. I can PERSONALLY say that these stories are untrue. People in Fallujah were given warnings to leave the city. Some stayed and were allowed to be out for a few hours in the morning every day. People were not unfairly targeted. We gave specific instructions to the citizens and the consequences if they did not follow them: they would be considered a fighter/insurgent and then be dealt with accordingly. We opted for them to surrender first and when they began shooting we engaged as well. Hospital staff were not threatened and were safeguarded. Its sad that someone would say that, especially someone who has probably not been there and is hearing some story, from someone, who heard it from someone else, etc. I could talk all day about this but some people are just going to remain ignorant.
A U.S. Marine |
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