Re: U.S. was aware that a deadly Tidal Wave was building up in the Indian Ocean
2004-12-31 00:12:16
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| What paranoid world do you live in???? Get a life and stop smoking crack. |
Re: U.S. was aware that a deadly Tidal Wave was building up in the Indian Ocean
2004-12-31 00:39:54
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| As usual, it's America's fault... I get sick of this angle. Write a news story with some facts in it for once. |
Re: U.S. was aware that a deadly Tidal Wave was building up in the Indian Ocean
2004-12-31 00:58:13
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The US Military and the State Department were given advanced warning. America's Navy base on the island of Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean was notified.
Why were fishermen in India, Sri Lanka and Thailand not provided with the same warnings as the US Navy and the US State Department?
Probably because fishermen in India, Sri Lanka and Thailand don't have multimillion dollar communications equipment handy?
Now how hard is it to pick up the phone and call Sri Lanka?
Go ahead, do it. And not just any old person - call someone with the authority to order an evacuation of the entire coast with an hour and a half warning (and that's assuming you get the ball rolling IMMEDIATELY).
With modern communications, the information of an impending disaster could have been sent around the World in a matter of minutes, by email, by telephone, by fax, not to mention by live satellite Television.
Since when do little 50 person villages of mud huts have e-mail, telephones, faxes, and satellite TV? |
Re: U.S. was aware that a deadly Tidal Wave was building up in the Indian Ocean
2004-12-31 02:29:56
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| Enough of being a mute spectator of all these... |
Re: U.S. was aware that a deadly Tidal Wave was building up in the Indian Ocean
2004-12-31 03:03:19
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| an alien spacecraft took of from area 51 |
Re: U.S. was aware that a deadly Tidal Wave was building up in the Indian Ocean
2004-12-31 04:46:10
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Telephones have reached everywhere , even in the areas where there are only 50 mud huts . If not with local population, the mobile population passing through the area has them.
Anyway, past is past, ,let us take a lesson and when it is time to tell someone to Run , say it by any means. You will when you feel that you are also just one of them. |
Re: U.S. was aware that a deadly Tidal Wave was building up in the Indian Ocean
2004-12-31 08:29:35
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Who wrote this article?
More than 100,000 people are dead and this "expert" would have saved everybody if he had been in charge?
I stopped reading the article after seeing the negative, critical nature of this.
First of all, this writer seems to presume that the scientists knew with certainty exactly what was happening. Well, just like with 9/11 and the people who say it could have been prevented, hindsight is very easy. However, there was probably significant uncertainty about what was actually happening.
Does this writer not believe that the scientists tried to save lives according to the degree of what they knew was happening? Or is this writer the only person in the world who cares about saving human lives?
Whoever posted or published this article, please try to limit your work to not including so much bias, arrogance, and criticism especially during a time of international mourning.
This writer's energy could probably be used in a much more positive way. We do not need negative criticism at this time. Constructive criticism would be helpful when this issue is addressed in order to learn how to minimize destruction if there are such future disasters. But now it wold be good to focus on what can be done to help the people who need help.
Thanks.
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Re: U.S. was aware that a deadly Tidal Wave was building up in the Indian Ocean
2004-12-31 08:36:58
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Yep, that's right. They should have just called up all these countries on the telephone or sent them an e-mail!!! Everybody should have these international phone numbers and e-mail addresses handy. Sure!!!
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Re: U.S. was aware that a deadly Tidal Wave was building up in the Indian Ocean
2004-12-31 09:39:07
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| Telephones haven't reached everywhere. There are many areas of the planet where people live without telephone lines, meaning their only option is to use a satellite phone - and those cost more per minute than some people make in a month. |
Re: U.S. was aware that a deadly Tidal Wave was building up in the Indian Ocean
2004-12-31 10:18:36
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Michel ,
Get your nose out of your computer and think about it for a moment. It took many lives, millions of dollars, and several tsunami's in the Pacific rim before a tsunami warning system was installed. We encourage all countries to provide for themselves such a warning, but it is not our responsibility to provide such a system for the whole world.
It's interesting that you think the US is omnicient and omnipotent. We help where we can; God we're not.
Thank you for your totally useless article.
kn.designs@verizon.net |
Re: U.S. was aware that a deadly Tidal Wave was building up in the Indian Ocean
2004-12-31 11:12:30
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wether this article is biased or not is besdies the point. the facts are there, clear as day. The US did not act when it should have done; Diego Garcia (where we bombed Iraq from) is in the middle of the Indian Ocean and was prepared, closer than Sri Lanka and the Maldives, and certainly closer than Ethiopia. Phone calls to world leaders do not take four hours.
This is not a conspircay. Its a mighty big mistake by the Americans. Again. |
Re: U.S. was aware that a deadly Tidal Wave was building up in the Indian Ocean
2004-12-31 14:19:32
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| This author nailed it. The U.S. did know about the tsunamis and did not warn these coastal regions. It makes perfect sense. By allowing the waves to hit without warning the loss of life was ten times higher that what it would have been with proper warning. Why did the U.S not warn the population, because we wanted to spend millions of dollars for humanitarian aid we wanted to divert the USS Abraham Lincoln from South Korea and its mission there. We wanted to expose our citizens and military to the potential of disease and death trying to assist and helping the population over there. This also gives the U.S a chance to use some of its technology from the UFO at Roswell,New Mexico. If we are lucky we will find Elvis and the gunman from the grassy knoll why we are over there helping out. |
Re: U.S. was aware that a deadly Tidal Wave was building up in the Indian Ocean
2004-12-31 15:18:18
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| I'm always amused at how quickly some jump to conclusions. If you look at the 9/11 incident you will see the reality of how modern and effective communications don't work in large complex organizations. We tracked airplanes that had already crashed. We had a great deal of confusion going on in the first few hours. Now translate this to the third world area where no real protocol had been established to react to such an event. The scientific community itself can't identify the exact extent of this event even during the first hours of its occurence. Then add in layers of governments from different countries with disparate abilities to react and communicate. None of this should be a surprise to anyone. It's just the reality of the way things work. Diego Garcia has military satellite control facilites and communications facilities for guarding the safekeeping of the US. They are no doubt in the loop for earthquake warnings. But their charter is for the most part a military function and now they are busily tasked with supporting our war efforts. Better we spend energy in creating an Indian Ocean Tsunami warning network rather chasing one more governmental conspiracy |
Re: U.S. was aware that a deadly Tidal Wave was building up in the Indian Ocean
2004-12-31 16:30:05
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I can understand how you might feel that a phone call or two should be all that's necessary for the US to notify everyone. It should be that easy. It's not.
Here's why.
Steps in notification of a tsunami:
1. Detect the probability or existence of a tsunami.
-- This can be done in minutes after an earth-
quake-generated tsunami. Detection
equipment, computer resolution, etc. It is
likely that appropriate sensors may be in place
for this, though a study will probably show
that more are needed.
-- Subsurface landslide-generated tsunami won't
be detected thusly, they need direct tsunami
pressure wave detection in deep water and
possibly other sensor systems. These
tsunamis may be much more difficult to detect
in time to do anything about them. The
Pacific has a lot of the deep water
instrumentation to make some effective effort
possible. I doubt the Indian Ocean has it.
2. Confirmation of data, can be done quickly
by checking with other sensor systems. But it
does take some time to clarify the magnitude.
3. Initial notification to governmental organization
can be done electronically and by phone.
Here's where it slows down.
4. Governmental notifies local communities.
A. Local government activate mass tsunami
notification system. If this is not in place,
notification by phone is utterly worthless for
99.999% of the affected populace. All the
local government officials can do is run
outside jump in their jeep and head for the
hills with a wave at their rear bumper.
They would have no possible way to notify
the populace. Even if they tried, unless the
populace is ALREADY educated on tsunamis
and what they should do, they won't believe
one police officer running around with a
megaphone yelling "they sky if falling."
B. Local populace must be educated on the
existence of the tsunami warning system and
their expected response thereto.
C. Tests of the system and the populace's
response, like a fire drill, is required.
-- Unless there is an automatic notification
system that can be actuated instantly, a phone
call will unfortunately have no distributed
warning effect in time for communities local
to the source of the tsunami.
Let's stop the recriminations. Want to get involved in solving it? Find out what's being done on your own coast. When you drive down to the beach, do you see road signs with "Tsunami Warning Area" and "Tsunami Evacuation Route." Do all
restaurant, hotel, and resort have brochures in every
room about tsunami response? Does the phone book
have information in the front about tsunami evacuation? Every Wednesday at noon, do the Tsunami Sirens sound? Do the children in all the public schools have quarterly tsunami evacuation drills?
If not, your seaside community is not prepared for a tsunami. No amount of hand wringing and pointing fingers will be of use when a big one comes your way.
Check out the Oregon coast for pretty good examples
of preparation.
Good luck on your preparation. Let's stop with the finger pointing
kn.designs@verizon.net
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Re: U.S. was aware that a deadly Tidal Wave was building up in the Indian Ocean
2004-12-31 16:32:26
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I can understand how you might feel that a phone call or two should be all that's necessary for the US to notify everyone. It should be that easy. It's not.
Here's why.
Steps in notification of a tsunami:
1. Detect the probability or existence of a tsunami.
-- This can be done in minutes after an earth-
quake-generated tsunami. Detection
equipment, computer resolution, etc. It is
likely that appropriate sensors may be in place
for this, though a study will probably show
that more are needed.
-- Subsurface landslide-generated tsunami won't
be detected thusly, they need direct tsunami
pressure wave detection in deep water and
possibly other sensor systems. These
tsunamis may be much more difficult to detect
in time to do anything about them. The
Pacific has a lot of the deep water
instrumentation to make some effective effort
possible. I doubt the Indian Ocean has it.
2. Confirmation of data, can be done quickly
by checking with other sensor systems. But it
does take some time to clarify the magnitude.
3. Initial notification to governmental organization
can be done electronically and by phone.
Here's where it slows down.
4. Governmental notifies local communities.
A. Local government activate mass tsunami
notification system. If this is not in place,
notification by phone is utterly worthless for
99.999% of the affected populace. All the
local government officials can do is run
outside jump in their jeep and head for the
hills with a wave at their rear bumper.
They would have no possible way to notify
the populace. Even if they tried, unless the
populace is ALREADY educated on tsunamis
and what they should do, they won't believe
one police officer running around with a
megaphone yelling "they sky if falling."
B. Local populace must be educated on the
existence of the tsunami warning system and
their expected response thereto.
C. Tests of the system and the populace's
response, like a fire drill, is required.
-- Unless there is an automatic notification
system that can be actuated instantly, a phone
call will unfortunately have no distributed
warning effect in time for communities local
to the source of the tsunami.
Let's stop the recriminations. Want to get involved in solving it? Find out what's being done on your own coast. When you drive down to the beach, do you see road signs with "Tsunami Warning Area" and "Tsunami Evacuation Route." Do all
restaurant, hotel, and resort have brochures in every
room about tsunami response? Does the phone book
have information in the front about tsunami evacuation? Every Wednesday at noon, do the Tsunami Sirens sound? Do the children in all the public schools have quarterly tsunami evacuation drills?
If not, your community is not prepared for a tsunami. No amount of hand wringing and pointing fingers will be of use when a big one comes your way.
Check out the Oregon coast for pretty good examples
of preparation.
Good luck on your preparation. Let's stop with the finger pointing
kn.designs@verizon.net
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Re: U.S. was aware that a deadly Tidal Wave was building up in the Indian Ocean
2004-12-31 18:57:46
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It's amazing how the "experts"come out after any event and find fault everywhere. They must stay awake at night dreaming up conspiracies. There are lucrative jobs waiting for them in Hollywood.
Just remember, an "expert" is a drip under pressure. (For your slow ones, that's ex-spurt)
M.W.U. |
Re: U.S. was aware that a deadly Tidal Wave was building up in the Indian Ocean
2004-12-31 18:58:47
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God, someone with common sense.
You're right on! |
Re: U.S. was aware that a deadly Tidal Wave was building up in the Indian Ocean
2005-01-01 10:12:56
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to the 'author' of this drivel:
man, what an idiot you are. have you nothing better to do than project your paranoid delusions on the world?
have you been contributing any money or time or effort in helping the people that are actually suffering from this disaster?
fuckwit.... |
Re: U.S. was aware that a deadly Tidal Wave was building up in the Indian Ocean
2005-01-01 14:31:30
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| What???? The US was "evil" by not warning each individual person about a possible danger, and now the US is evil because the US military is helping/leading the relief effort? |
Re: U.S. was aware that a deadly Tidal Wave was building up in the Indian Ocean
2005-01-01 16:20:53
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| There are publically accessible email lists available to receive these warnings for anyone who is interested. I'm a civilian and I received an email alert at 0121 UTC. And yet no one in the governments of a nearly a billion people could be bothered with subscribing to one of these lists? How much effort is the U.S. supposed to make to ram information down the throats of people who won't lift a finger to help themselves? |
Re: U.S. was aware that a deadly Tidal Wave was building up in the Indian Ocean
2005-01-01 21:47:57
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| As a fellow simple fact checking Canadian All I can say is your Bang On |
Re: U.S. was aware that a deadly Tidal Wave was building up in the Indian Ocean
2005-01-02 06:25:56
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My region in Soth Asia plays uncivilised, plays poverty striken. Thios is the reason why the disaster is in unprsidented scale. We only speak about sunken cities and ancient civilisations. We talk about our ancient civilisations. however we are now comparably uncivilised to think and handle impending events. this is the main reason of the calamity. Our scientists and historians are not civilised enough to think far. Our governments are not civilised enough to think far.
If one insist on blaming America for this, I can only go quarter of the way to accepting this. There is a need for immediate implementation of earlywarning system. |
Re: U.S. was aware that a deadly Tidal Wave was building up in the Indian Ocean
2005-01-02 09:25:29
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The author has got it all wrong - this isn't a technology issue at all, it's an education and preparedness issue. As network techies might say, the problem is not a Layer 1 issue, it's a Layer 8 (brainware) or higher issue.
There isn't anything that could have been done by anybody to warn the potential victims, in the absence of education and training to react appropriately to the warning.
In any event, the information about the earthquake was in the public domain from the USGS mailing list at about 1 hour and 15 minutes after the quake. Just about anybody in the World could have had access to the information *if they had bothered to look* for it on the web.
Some people did find out about the quake on their own initiative and succeeded in alerting others. A single 10c phone call from Singapore succeeded in saving a whole village in India. A little girl's recognition of the early signs of a Tsunami suceeded in saving the lives of everybody at a Thai beach, with plenty of time to spare.
There's utterly no need to play the blame game - the USGS, PTWC and ATWC did a splendid job and met or exceeded their mandate.
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Re: U.S. was aware that a deadly Tidal Wave was building up in the Indian Ocean
2005-01-02 11:01:46
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Hi Anonymous (Canadian, on Friday, December 31 @ 17:58:04 PST). It's great to read someone 'talking' sense - keep it up there aren't many out there!
ML, Somerset UK |
Re: U.S. was aware that a deadly Tidal Wave was building up in the Indian Ocean
2005-01-02 13:38:19
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| people like you give anti-Americanism a bad name |
Re: U.S. was aware that a deadly Tidal Wave was building up in the Indian Ocean
2005-01-04 16:32:15
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Hey, look at this!
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/asiapcf/01/04/tsunami.diegogarcia.ap/index.html
Geography saved U.S. base from tsunami
Diego Garcia located near deep-sea trench
HONOLULU, Hawaii (AP) -- Location and underwater topography helped protect the strategic U.S. military base on the remote island of Diego Garcia from the killer tsunami that raced across the Indian Ocean.
Another nail in the coffin of your absurd theory. |
Re: U.S. was aware that a deadly Tidal Wave was building up in the Indian Ocean
2005-01-05 22:55:18
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| I have to give the author credit - even the National Enquirer (or any of the other supermarket rag-mags) couldn't top this story! Tell us another story... please? Tell us the one about how Mulder and Scully were REAL FBI agents or how there really were WMDs in Iraq. |
Re: U.S. was aware that a deadly Tidal Wave was building up in the Indian Ocean
2005-01-06 00:07:56
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Hmmm you make no valid points here.
The U.S Naval base positioned in the Indian Ocean is not fucking strategic positioning, it is an island. The U.S have a base there, big shit. What did you want them to do? Did you want the U.S to get the hoover dam, lift it up with 14 helicopters and plonk it right in front of a monster tsunami? Or did you want the U.S to divert the Tsunami using their incredible power to force it into the Grand Canyon not only stopping the impending loss of life, but also providing water to the hundreds of thousands of people trying to farm alien stories in the Nevada desert?
Also those people at the Hawaii base, probably have all of the asian countries on speedial, for this exact reason. If you cant tell, thats sarcasm.
The only thing you haven't touched upon here is that fact that this is a natural disaster. Planes flying into buildings is not a natural disaster. Evil dictators and leaders plotting against the rest of the world is not a natural disaster. Sure the U.S have made some mistakes, but there is no way you can blame them for a natural disaster.
You maybe some kind of genius in your circle of friends, but to the rest of people that give a shit about this terrible disaster you're just a cum burping fuckwit. Merry Xmas Genius. |
Re: U.S. was aware that a deadly Tidal Wave was building up in the Indian Ocean
By: happiness
2005-01-06 05:14:43
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| I read an article on a financial website that indonesia was about to sell $35 bn US dollars!! umm!! i thought a coincidence or what!! |
Re: U.S. was aware that a deadly Tidal Wave was building up in the Indian Ocean
By: happiness
2005-01-06 05:50:02
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| i read on a financial website that indonesia were about to sell $35 bn US dollars!!! ummh!! |
Re: U.S. was aware that a deadly Tidal Wave was building up in the Indian Ocean
By: happiness
2005-01-06 05:58:12
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| well well well touched a raw nerve. check you out AMERICAN you know damn well HOW MESSED UP THE AMERICAN GOVERNMENT IS and there you are so high and mighty spouting your mouth off but i read on a financial website that indonesia ws about to sell $35 bn US dollars!! so you see american person america is a fucked up nation that DOES butt its nose in others business it does help who it wants if that one day they will be indebted to the fucked up US of A. so AMERICAN KEEP ON DOING WHAT YOU DO LIE AND DENY THROUGH YOUR TEETH. GOD BLESS AMERICA!! JOKE!! |
Re: U.S. was aware that a deadly Tidal Wave was building up in the Indian Ocean
By: happiness
2005-01-06 05:59:51
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| FOOL!! |
Re: U.S. was aware that a deadly Tidal Wave was building up in the Indian Ocean
By: happiness
2005-01-06 06:01:33
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| MORE THAN LIKELY NOT CONTRIBUTING AS THE PERSON MOST PROBABLY HAS NONE DUE TO HOW THE WORLD SYSTEM IS SET UP THAT THE MAJORITY OF US ARE FIGHTING FOR THE FEW CRUMBS THAT THE GREEDY PIGS OF THE WESTERN WORLD ARE KEEPING FOR THEMSELVES. I AGREE TOTALLY WITH THE AUTHOR YYOU ARE THE FUCKWIT.... |
Re: U.S. was aware that a deadly Tidal Wave was building up in the Indian Ocean
By: happiness
2005-01-06 06:04:01
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| you obviously are in on it too!! |
Re: U.S. was aware that a deadly Tidal Wave was building up in the Indian Ocean
By: happiness
2005-01-06 06:06:14
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you made an error in your speech....
america does not make a few mistakes....
america makes MANY mistakes. twat!!! |
Re: U.S. was aware that a deadly Tidal Wave was building up in the Indian Ocean
By: happiness
2005-01-07 05:03:04
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| mayb if america did nothing things would be ok but basically everything that america touches or invades goes wrong!! |
TO ALL THE MORONS THAT ARE DISCREDITING THIS AUTHOR...
2005-01-07 08:06:07
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| You're beneath me, but I will comment on yours, the last I've seen discrediting this author. He is making a point albeit rambling at times about how probably half of these people could have easily been "saved". I work with SEPA ... Seismic Elevated Preparedness Awareness which is a consultant to seismographers and the u.s. gov't among many.....he is actually correct in his assumptions although only about half of those people would have been protected....it would have been quite easy considering the connections communication wise that the u.s. navy has with that region.... in fact, in 1991 with less communicative ability the u.s. navy sent out a warning in the same exact area in less than 20 minutes finding out the information and 11.5 million people were notified within 38 minutes of the initial transmission. the united states job is to create as much chaos as it can world wide and locally so they can be the ones to "fix it" ... plain and simple. that is his point you fuckwit. MY EMAIL IS: JACKBLOOMLAW@MSN.COM .. please feel free to contact me. thank-you. |
Re: U.S. was aware that a deadly Tidal Wave was building up in the Indian Ocean
2005-01-07 18:30:51
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| The U.S. government/military doesn't "help" anyone it doesn't want to control. I think the tsunami was caused by the joint U.S./Australia military "exercises" I'd read about shortly before it happened. And I think that most of the victims were Muslim by design. Those that the U.S./Australian/Zionist racist war machine doesn't kill with a big stick, they can "help" with the "aid" carrot, those they deem deserving, obedient and subservient enough, that is. Kill 'em and take their land because they've got manifest destiny from God, that's their motto. The World Bank is drooling over how much interest they're going to make from all the new tsunami "aid" loans they can give to U.S. installed dictators to be repaid by those they rule who had no voice in accepting the "help". I don't know which is the bigger tragedy--all those who died or those surviving about to be sold into slavery for "aid". |
Re: U.S. was aware that a deadly Tidal Wave was building up in the Indian Ocean
2005-01-08 10:19:32
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There's a lot of relatives on this site - all with the same name 'Anonymous'. It's a shame you're all not better informed, before you voice an opinion.
Read the below, if you can be bothered. May-be just another 'interesting' cover-up - OR conspiracy????
Signed.... Anonymous One Aussie.
Independent Media TV
Under Reported
December 28, 2004
Earthquake: Coincidence or a Corporate Oil Tragedy?
By: Andrew Limburg
Independent Media TV
Now I don |
Re: U.S. was aware that a deadly Tidal Wave was building up in the Indian Ocean
2005-01-08 16:14:03
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| Thank you for the well written and educational post on this topic. I don't withdraw my assertions, as the military is just the long arm of the oil industray, but your post clarified the details. |
Re: U.S. was aware that a deadly Tidal Wave was building up in the Indian Ocean
2005-01-08 19:30:41
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| You people want to blame everything on someone else! "The US caused it" " The US didn't warn us" "The US didn't respond fast enough" The US doesn't give us enough money" Shut the fuck up! You particularly are fond of blaming the US for either doing too much or not enough. You know what? Shit happens people!!! More natural & weather related disasters happen in the US than anywhere else on earth. We have mudslides, massive wildfires, tornados, hurricanes, floods, blizzards etc. And do we blame Muslim countries? Aliens? Terrorists? You friggen people are ridiculous! This is a living, dynamic planet that is barely affected by our existence. You people give humans and human governments WAY too much credit for our ability to wreak havoc to the planet itsef. The massive energy involved in nature's fury is beyond man. Instead of blaming men for nature's fury and putting your faith in man's ability to make sense out of nature, power and disaster like this should serve to remind ALL of us who's REALLY in charge. It is no nation, and no men. So here's a big SHUT UP to all of you morons! And quit blaming the US for every-damn-thing. |
Re: U.S. was aware that a deadly Tidal Wave was building up in the Indian Ocean
2005-01-08 19:32:20
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| You are a fucking, paranoid idiot. God help you if you really believe what you wrote. |
Re: U.S. was aware that a deadly Tidal Wave was building up in the Indian Ocean
2005-01-08 19:34:28
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| You Godamned people want the US to do everything and nothing at the same time! Fuck off, ok? |
Re: U.S. was aware that a deadly Tidal Wave was building up in the Indian Ocean
2005-01-08 19:36:25
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| Too great! |
Re: TO ALL THE MORONS THAT ARE DISCREDITING THIS AUTHOR...
2005-01-08 19:39:49
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| Once again "Please, please United States help us and then fuck off." or "America do everything for us" quickly followed by "Evil Americans get out of our business!" |
Re: U.S. was aware that a deadly Tidal Wave was building up in the Indian Ocean
2005-01-08 19:43:14
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Once again we hear, "Please, please United States help us and then fuck off."
or
"America do everything for us" quickly followed by "Evil Americans get out of our land and our business but leave alot of money." |
Re: U.S. was aware that a deadly Tidal Wave was building up in the Indian Ocean
2005-01-08 19:51:38
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| I've got gas and heartburn from eating a hotdog. DAMN YANKIES! |
Re: U.S. was aware that a deadly Tidal Wave was building up in the Indian Ocean
2005-01-08 19:54:15
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| I think the next time there's an earthquake in the US or Mt St Helens erupts it will be Saudi terrorists to blame and we should immediatly bomb Mecca. |
Re: U.S. was aware that a deadly Tidal Wave was building up in the Indian Ocean
2005-01-08 20:26:51
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As Rush Limbaugh would say, "He/she is part of that kooky, looney, wacko base. I just wanted you to hear this stuff, folks, because if you want to know what stepping in a pile of excrement is, you just heard a brief portion of it!"
The US did send info?????
(CNSNews.com) - Minutes after a massive earthquake rocked the Indian Ocean on Sunday, international ocean monitors knew that a tsunami would likely follow -- but they didn't know whom to tell, according to the USA Today. "We put out a bulletin within 20 minutes, technically as fast as we could do it," said Jeff LaDouce of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. LaDouce stated that e-mails were dispatched to Indonesian officials, but he doesn't know what happened to the information. |
Re: U.S. was aware that a deadly Tidal Wave was building up in the Indian Ocean
2005-01-08 21:11:51
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As Rush Limbaugh would say, "He/she is part of that kooky, looney, wacko base. I just wanted you to hear this stuff, folks, because if you want to know what stepping in a pile of excrement is, you just heard a brief portion of it!"
The US did send info?????
(CNSNews.com) - Minutes after a massive earthquake rocked the Indian Ocean on Sunday, international ocean monitors knew that a tsunami would likely follow -- but they didn't know whom to tell, according to the USA Today. "We put out a bulletin within 20 minutes, technically as fast as we could do it," said Jeff LaDouce of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. LaDouce stated that e-mails were dispatched to Indonesian officials, but he doesn't know what happened to the information. |
Re: U.S. was aware that a deadly Tidal Wave was building up in the Indian Ocean
2005-01-10 19:36:44
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| Yes, fucktard, we here in the US have a big fuckin Earthquake gun ,and we decided to shoot some fuckin' skinny fisherman with it! yes! World domination by taking out the all important fisherman! >_> Oi. My god, Stop blaming the US for everything that happens. We aren't the enemy. And if you decide that, we can easily enough come and stomp your ass. |
Re: TO ALL THE MORONS THAT ARE DISCREDITING THIS AUTHOR...
2005-01-10 19:45:11
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| You fucking stupid? |
Re: U.S. was aware that a deadly Tidal Wave was building up in the Indian Ocean
2005-01-10 19:52:51
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| What the hell is that supposed to mean, bitch? |
Re: U.S. was aware that a deadly Tidal Wave was building up in the Indian Ocean
2005-01-10 22:36:46
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| If such a ploy could benefit the current regime in the White House, to possibly take the attention off of the Iraq War, it would not be beyond their criminal minds to orchestrate it. I'm an informed Republican and have never smoked crack. You're obviously quite naive. |
Re: U.S. was aware that a deadly Tidal Wave was building up in the Indian Ocean
2005-01-10 23:39:11
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Yep, here in Australian we are so cunning that we not only planned & executed the quake we also convinced our citizens to donate some 50 million dollars so far (taking in to account the recent concert and cricket match) not to mention the billion the government have offered, we also had the wave run down the entire west coast of australia, unforunatley it was only enough to sink a few boats and wash away a couple of shops, then we send in our army with their evil water purifiers and c-130 hercules loaded with medical supplies & food which we give to the starving masses free of charge, and in case you havent heard their unarmed! geez what a pack of bastards we are, im so ashamed
you paranoid pathetic little person how dare you try and lay the blame for the death of more than 150,000 people on our doorstep or the doorstep of any country, what kind of person are you to make such claims ? i bet your the kind of guy that was 20,000 miles away stuffing your face with christmas turkey and didnt even know about the disaster until a week later then decided it was our fault
Sincerley,
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Re: U.S. was aware that a deadly Tidal Wave was building up in the Indian Ocean
2005-01-11 20:39:44
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Your article makes it perfectly obvious that the USA caused this catastrophe. And undoubtedly we have caused most of the other catastrophes of the modern world. The fact is the phone rang. ET called. No one was there to answer the call. Its just like warning of any impending disaster. For a warning to ever go out there has be a system, and everyone has to know how the warning is to be interpreted. What if the US scientists in Honolulu had gotten through to Thialand. Without an in place warning system what were the officials there to do. Perhaps they would have sounded a village or community alarm - if they had such. I suppose they could have rang the community bell and everyone came out to see what was going on just in time to get hit by the surge. We in the US have all of this because we developed it during the cold war - incase of nuclear attack. We did not just wake up one clear morning and out of the blue decide we needed a warning system in every village in america. We "evolved" a system which can pretty much warn us of pretty much everything from a local tornado to a global catastrophe. Unfortunately other residents of this planet have never felt the need to develop all of this stuff we in america take for granted. Many of them are more interested in returning to the stoneage than in developing the technology and knowledge to warn themselves of the hazards around them. Of course when we have the knowledge and they have no way to either get it or transfer it - it must our fault for having it in the first place.
Waves from an earthquake travel thru the earth. They are not instant. The scientists were watching seismographic systems in the pacific, thousands of miles from the quake. The primary wave travels fastest. Secondary waves are slower, by half, only traveling thru the crust of the earth. The difference between the P and S waves is used to compute the distance; Tri-angulation is used to determine the epicenter. All of this takes time. Primary waves travel at 25000 MPH thru the core and 14,000 MPH on the surface. By the time the US scientists knew there was an earthquake Sumtra was destroyed. By the time there was a working solution on the epicenter, the islands off Thialand would have been inundated. Perhaps they would have projected a problem in Sri Lanka about the time the wave hit there.
But none of this really makes any difference.
We americans already understand that everything even earthquakes on the other side of the world are our fault. The 26 Dec quake may have been
the precurser to a really big one. If the geo feature the san francisco hit was a shift on the opposite side, the next big one could be worse. |
Re: U.S. was aware that a deadly Tidal Wave was building up in the Indian Ocean
2005-01-18 11:35:39
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"Yes, fucktard, we here in the US have a big fuckin Earthquake gun ,and we decided to shoot some fuckin' skinny fisherman with it! yes! World domination by taking out the all important fisherman! >_> Oi. My god, Stop blaming the US for everything that happens. We aren't the enemy. And if you decide that, we can easily enough come and stomp your ass." I can understand why you feel attacked but seriously, you should not put so much of your energy and faith in your 'country'. What is your 'country' after all? Your country is full of wonderful, kind, crazy, beautiful, ugly, ignorant, wise, cruel, sadistic, generous, disturbed, and holy people. As all countries are. Divisions between land are made by rulers. Rulers then convince the dwellers within those borders that they are somehow different to those on 'the other side'. We are all the same. Regardless of skin colour and ideology. We all like to fuck and we all like to eat. And none of us really wants to die. And as populations resemble one another - governments do also; but they are not related to one another. One has to look at motive here. The motive of the US government, throughout history, has been to secure land and to secure fuel. As the British Crown achieved with the Empire. Governments are not representatives of their people. They are not moral avatars that should be looked to for advice and salvation. They are a business. They make money. And some businesses are more ruthless than others, some more violent and greedy. No citizen of your country is being targetted by any of these claims. But those in power, those in charge of things - they are the ones that are being rightly questioned. And questions should not be seen as a bad thing. Ever. In ancient Rome the population were known as the 'mob' to the senate and Caeser. They were a thing to be pushed and pulled in accordance with the ruler's desire. And so it is today. In truth, although it is a hard pill to swallow, we are not Americans, or Englishmen, or Mexicans, or Belgians etc. We are the worldwide 'mob'. The working men and women of many colours, and of many tongues. Powerless and subserviant. Working to line the Kings pocket as well as our own. So it is inadvisable to take the comments one might apply to a country, or a government, as personal. Because a government is not a group of powerful public representatives - fighting for your 'freedom'. A government represents multi-national corporations and their interests are corporate interests, not public. We are foolish to think that our concerns are shared by those that govern us. And we are foolish when we fight for those who would not fight for us. |
Re: U.S. was aware that a deadly Tidal Wave was building up in the Indian Ocean
2005-01-19 02:15:26
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India,Sri Lanka,Thailand and Indonesia are independent countries not a dependent states of USA.India even has nuclear weapons.
Those countries should develop own technologies to track coming disasters and eans to protect own citizens.
my opinion is ;no point of blaming USA or other countries for not informing this tsunami.
all tsunami affected countries are embroling due to internal party politics.They do not need to protect own citizens.They just struggle to get the power.
a citizen from Tsunami affected country. |
Re: U.S. was aware that a deadly Tidal Wave was building up in the Indian Ocean
2005-01-19 02:16:58
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India,Sri Lanka,Thailand and Indonesia are independent countries not a dependent states of USA.India even has nuclear weapons.
Those countries should develop own technologies to track coming disasters and eans to protect own citizens.
my opinion is ;no point of blaming USA or other countries for not informing this tsunami.
all tsunami affected countries are embroling due to internal party politics.They do not need to protect own citizens.They just struggle to get the power.
a citizen from Tsunami affected country. |
Re: U.S. was aware that a deadly Tidal Wave was building up in the Indian Ocean
2005-01-22 20:46:47
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| did oliver stone write the original article? |
Re: U.S. was aware that a deadly Tidal Wave was building up in the Indian Ocean
2005-01-23 11:00:17
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What utter drivel.
Americans have a lot of faults (cant play football(soccer), drink ice cold beer, make lousy tea) but to say they are 'evil' which is what this article maintains is digusting.
They do their best to help in a major disaster and this is the thanks they get.
get a life.....or a brain ... or just do something useful
TTFN
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Re: U.S. was aware that a deadly Tidal Wave was building up in the Indian Ocean
2005-01-24 04:34:29
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The truth is the US not only had knowledge of the impending earthquake, but caused it through a series of deep water nuclear detonations.
With their military presence in the region, their goal clearly is the oppression of another Muslim nation. |
Re: U.S. was aware that a deadly Tidal Wave was building up in the Indian Ocean
2005-01-26 14:04:26
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| What better way to make youself look good, than to allow a tragedy, and head off a humanitarian effort to make it all better. 9/11? let it happen so you can start a war. The US gvt knows more than they let out, so they can make it all better. |
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